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I'm Free
08-20-2003, 09:33 PM
I read the threads concerning racism, and the people who seem to have very strong views and terms for one another in their perseptions and verbal displays of Hate, one view being justified by the all powerful God "media" and its gospel according to every talk show host we as Americans have been taught right and wrong by in their all knowing wisdom.(cough)

I wonder; Why is it wrong and called 'separatism' when a person by choice; not wanting to interact with another race, for what ever their personal reasons may be decides not too, yet upon the other end of the scale I notice the creations of "Gay schools"... I am confused, what is the difference between separating and funding and conjoining any group, be it by race or color or creed or sexual pref...:confused:


I personally do not understand why anyone would have a problem with anyone else but I am but a man and not the governs of man/woman-kind...Thus I do not need to understand the why in the choices one person makes and another calls wrong or evil or good ect...I only can be truely separated from Racism and Hate if I tolerate all of the above as being human and allow them what I haven't got the power to change either way....Right?

What do you think?

champion
08-29-2003, 06:20 PM
When I first heard of Harvey Milk High School, I didn't think was too great an idea, but I supported it...until I learned it's a public school. I cannot support a public school which discriminates based on sexual orientation.
As far as not wanting to associate with members of another race, fine. Go, separate. I as far as I'm concerned, it's alot like the Amish separating themselves from others.

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09-01-2003, 01:43 PM
I agree with you nearly 100%. I think that it's important to stand up and not tolerate Racism and Hate. Though, I do not think it wrong for a person (or group) to remain separate, though that person (or group) needs to be tolerant of the other. Mutual respect is what we're after.

I'm not sure if I entirely agree with a school such as one where the students are separate due to their sexual orientation, or any reason really. I just can't see where it fits in.

I went to a segregated public school, all 'their' classes were in English and all 'our' classes were in French. Our two classes didn't really mingle until mid-high school, we really saw no need to hang out with the English kids because we had ourselves. They attended assemblies and events in English, and we in French. They were always our competitors, we never had much trouble, but (like any groups with things in common and being young) we did have our little scuffles. We were greatly outnumbered by the English kids and we took a little ***t, and gave some back in return.

In a separate French-only school I wouldn't have learned what my rights are and I think I would've viewed the English-speakers in a completely (less tolerant) different light. As it stands now, there is no 'us' and 'them'. We are all the same, except for the language we speak. To segregate students -children, no less!- will merely reinforce the 'us' and 'them' idea at a time when we can least afford it.

You have me thinking of something that happened up here in Canada a few years ago. A public school was sharing property (buildings, playing fields, and the like) with a private religious school. You have a private religious class in one room, and right next door you have a public class. One day, the public school proposed a fence outside to keep the public school and private school students apart a playtimes. The resistance to this fence from the community reinforced my faith in human tolerance. The fence was never built.

After all, society is made up of many different people of many different ideas on how they should live their lives, why should a person spend the first nearly-two decades of their life segregated from it? Public school should reflect society and focus on understanding and tolerance, not reinforcing differences.