the real truth

[ForceFedHate]

THERE IS NO REASON TO SUPPRESS A VIEWPOINT UNLESS IT IS TRUE, because a false viewpoint can easily be combatted with facts and logic, while truth cannot be combatted except by lies which are vulnerable to refutation.

Or to put it another way, the 'racist' view HAS to be suppressed, because if it weren't, MOST PEOPLE WOULD BECOME 'RACISTS'!

So what is the 'racist' view? Very simply, it is one that takes the following facts -- and a lot of others -- into account.

* FACT: Blacks make up 12% of the population, yet are 50% of the prison population.

* FACT: This means that blacks commit NINE TIMES the crimes of whites. (That's NOT 9% -- it's 900%!) It means that if there were equal numbers of blacks and whites in our population, NINE OF EVERY TEN CRIMINALS WOULD BE BLACK.

* FACT: If present demographic trends continue, whites will be a minority in America in only 50 years. Whites are already less than 50% of the population in California. Between blacks and Hispanics, whose crime rate is about 4 times that of whites, we can expect to see huge escalations in crime against whites as they become fewer in number and thus more vulnerable both physically and politically.

* FACT: 90% of all inter-racial crime is black-on-white (ie, committed BY blacks AGAINST whites).

* FACT: There are 20,000 black-on-white rapes every year in the US, but fewer than 100 white-on-black rapes.

* FACT: The majority of hate crimes are committed by blacks, in spite of the fact that blacks make up only 12% of the population, and in spite of the great reluctance of authorities to report hate crimes when they are committed by blacks. (That means that blacks commit VASTLY MORE hate crimes in proportion to their numbers than whites!)

* FACT: The average white IQ is 100; the average American black IQ is 85; the average African black IQ is 70 (borderline retarded). There has never been a civilization worthy of the name founded by blacks, and blacks have not even been able to retain the civilizations which have been created for them by whites ("white colonialism"). Note: Contrary to black propaganda, the ancient Egyptians were not black.


* FACT: Virtually all the major media outlets, including TV networks, newspapers, movie studios and book publishers, are owned or controlled by Jews.





* FACT: In the late 1920s the Communist Party USA decided on a policy of destroying American society by pushing 'racial equality'.

* FACT: One of the most distinguished black scholars in America, syndicated columnist Dr Thomas Sowell, has studied multiracial societies around the world and has observed that -- with the single exception of societies where one race is completely dominant over all others -- such societies simply do not work.

* FACT: The NAACP was founded principally by Jews, and Jews remained in charge of the organization till 1970.

* FACT: The Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Jr took his instructions from a Jewish communist, plagiarized his doctoral dissertation, and was an adulterous womanizer who spent the evening prior to his assassination in bed with two white women. Yet King is the only single American to be honored with a national holiday.

* FACT: The 1954 Supreme Court decision which brought about school integration was based on deliberate misrepresentation of a supposedly- scientific study.

* FACT: Liberals and blacks claim that the reason for black failure is "discrimination"; and yet many other racial and ethnic groups have been discriminated against -- Chinese, Irish and Jews, for example -- and yet all except blacks have become successful within a generation or so.




* FACT: Israel is the only 'Western' country to legally sanction torture, and the Israeli Defense Forces use bone-breaking and shoot-to-maim policies against Palestinians, and even reporters. Furthermore, Israel forbids marriages of Jews to non-Jews, just like nazi Germany.

[ForceFedHate]

These are the facts while many try to hide from the truth, hoping it will just go away many more become aware everyday. I dare anyone to prove any of these facts wrong.

[zulu]

A whole bunch of facts is one thing my friend.....

A whoel bunch of unsubstantiated facts with no reference to their source whatsoever is completely useless!

I trust you will provide us with a source to prove the truth of what you have just said.

[ForceFedHate]

Sure, actually I had stated the referances but my post was over 5000 words and most had to be deleted. Everything you read is taken from gov't sites. The stats on crime are compiled from the United States governments statistics of crime for the year ending 2001. The IQ rates can be found on any gov't site concerning national Qstats, and a few university sites list them also.

The comments on Dr. Martin luther king are based on FBI survalince tapes published in either june or july of "91" in TIME magazine. He makes such comments as "I be a drunk ****** tonight" and "I sure love the white women" the artice further goes on to say that sexual intercourse can be heard in the background.


As for the jews starting the NCAAP thats common knowledge, they ran it to 1970. As is the fact they own most mass media, just go on CBS, NBC, etc and look at the names of the princple holders. Everything on here was gathered from legit gov't and news sites. As I stated all referances where listed but due to the 5000 word limit on posting I had to cut over 8000 words. enything here can be found with about three hours of "surfing"

[ForceFedHate]

If that does not satisfy you give me a few days and I will look them all back up, but as I stated its not hard for anyone to find this info themselves regards, kevin.

[ForceFedHate]

* FACT: One of the most distinguished black scholars in America, syndicated columnist Dr Thomas Sowell, has studied multiracial societies around the world and has observed that -- with the single exception of societies where one race is completely dominant over all others -- such societies simply do not work


Almost forgot Dr. Sowell, just type his name in a search engine he's well known and respected in academic circles.

[ForceFedHate]

Forgot to credit the principal author John"birdman" Bryant. unfortunatly his site dosn't list all the references so I looked them up myself.

[Export]

I too have found some facts!

FACT: American males claiming to be 'superior whites' or even 'Aryan' had on average the smallest penis size in the world.

FACT: 93% of 'superior' white males under 35 years old were found to be virgins.

References: The Swell Curve, authored by Hurray & Mernstein, 1995.

[ForceFedHate]

Yea ok did mr. Mernsein personally inspect all those penis's himself?

[Export]

I don't know who inspected all those penis's, not too sure I want to find out.

Okay, here it is. I want to know why exactly I should hate blacks and Jews. Up to this point in my life, I have considered EVERY person I've met to be the equal of every other person I've met. I've never had any problems with people due to their colour or religion. I like to think that I have bigger and better things to worry about.

I like to appreciate the diversity. Don't you think that it would be boring if every person was just a copy of the next? I like that some people practice Kwanzaa or Hannukah or Christmas or Ramadan. I like that I can walk down the street and get a hotdog or Chinese food or a kebab or a curry. I like that there are many different people with different views. I enjoy what different people can bring to our society, no matter what their colour or race. I really don't think that there are any conspiracies by the Jews or the Stonemasons or Aliens to take over the world and plan the demise of the white 'race.' What I would hate would be living in a white-only isolationist society, which seems to be what you are advocating.

So tell me, why exactly should I hate other people based only on their skin colour or religion???

[ForceFedHate]

"Okay, here it is. I want to know why exactly I should hate blacks and Jews. Up to this point in my life, I have considered EVERY person I've met to be the equal of every other person I've met. I've never had any problems with people due to their colour or religion. I like to think that I have bigger and better things to worry about." (Export)




Who said anything about hate? I dont hate blacks or jews and belive it or not most white nationalists feel the same way. I just love my white race and hate to see everything that we have achieved in this great nation being taken away from us.

Do you know we give trillions of dollers a year to support Israel, a nation that is curently in violation of no less than 40 U.N resolutions. A nation that kicked out aministy international for investigating war crimes. A nation that uses torture as national policy. Why do you suppose that America turns a blind eye to this while railing against other nations such as Iraq, Serbia etc. that use the same tactics? I will tell you why because in America money talks its the only thing that really matters, to most people, and their are many rich, powerful jews in America.

Did you know that every civilization in recorded history besides the U.S.A that has had jewish populations has at one point tried to expell them? Why is that? I'm not going to answer that question for you its somthing that if you investigate yourself you will find your own answers to.

As for the blacks well can you name one nation run by blacks that has a stable government that isn't loaded with corruption and barbarism? Now they expect the taxpayers to fund peace keepers to libria when does it end? Should America play nurse maid to the whole world? As for American blacks they have fallen into a victim mentality and it seems that very few want to break out of it. Slavery was wrong and should never have happened but the fact is if it wasn't for whites ALL blacks would still be running aroud in the woods with bones in their noses still.


Now is the time for blacks the world over to stand on their own two feet and carve their own path is this world. Allowing them to constently expect the whites to support black nations, protect them, etc is racist, we need to allow them to build confidence in their own abilities. Its the only way to acheive self-reliance.

[champion]

I thought this conversation needed some stats, so, here:
From the U.S. Dept. of Justice:
Number of persons in prisons or jails: 1.7 million
Of those 1.7 million:
Male: 1,602,000
Female: 132,900
White: 871,500
Black: 816,600


This information is from the year 1997, it emcompasses inmates in both federal and state incarceration.

Please see the DOJ website to confirm.

[ForceFedHate]

* FACT: Blacks make up 12% of the population, yet are 50% of the prison population.

* FACT: This means that blacks commit NINE TIMES the crimes of whites. (That's NOT 9% -- it's 900%!) It means that if there were equal numbers of blacks and whites in our population, NINE OF EVERY TEN CRIMINALS WOULD BE BLACK.



You seem it have missed these facts champion, we all know that at this point in time theirs still millions of more whites in the U.S.A than blacks so of course the law of averages will show that more whites are in prison. Yet that wont change the fact that if there were equal numbers of blacks and whites in our population nine of every ten criminals would be black. Sorry, mate but your facts just support my view. Champion I have seen that sig before do you post at WSN?

[champion]

As I said, I felt the conversation needed stats. I found availible information and posted it. You feel this information supports your position; however, it's common knowledge that the same information can "support" opposing views, it's all in how you interpret it. For example, what I posted only illustrated the racial make-up of inmates in 1997. Any researcher worth his/her salt would look a bit deeper, delving into the circumstances which resulted in these numbers. Who is more likely to be investigated? Who is more likely to be formally charged? The list goes on.
The idea of inequality in our justice system is one that is of great interest to, though not racially. Look at the numbers of men versus women. Consider how many men are put to death for their crimes as opposed to how many women, for the same crimes. Ask prosecutors who they would rather have as a defendant, a man or a woman.
Our system is not perfect, it doesn't even pretend to be. It is irresponsible and, perhaps, nieve, to draw conclusions based solely on outcomes (numbers of those incarcerated) without taking into account causalities.

[pb]

The most important thing said was:

"Now is the time for blacks the world over to stand on their own two feet and carve their own path is this world. Allowing them to constently expect the whites to support black nations, protect them, etc is racist, we need to allow them to build confidence in their own abilities. Its the only way to acheive self-reliance."

In the past many blacks have been able to do this, but when they do they are considered uncle toms by they other blacks. And the ones that suceed are expected to bring the whole race with them. Luckily this is slowly changing.

I am tired of the reverse discrimination!

And I am tired of being blamed for slavery. My family had absolutely nothing to do with it. The family line that was here during slavery was too poor to own slaves, and quaker (know to be against slavery and helped with the underground railroad) and the other lines came over after slavery ended.

I heard recently that world wide whites are now the minority.

[pb]

So Export, I see that you believe a superior man is one with the larger private parts.

God help us if their are many out there like you.

To me a superior man: thinks with his head and not his crotch; stands up for what is right, even when he is out numbered by many; can compromise; because he is superior looks out for the underdog; dosen`t give fish to the poor but teaches them how to fish; owns up to his mistakes; has overcome diversity of any kind prejudice, or health problems; etc.

[Export]

Don't worry, I really don't think that God's going to be helping the likes of me! hehehe...

Anyways, I'm not sure you've read the entire forum (or any of my other posts, for that matter.) I had thought I had made it pretty clear that I consider everyone equal, no matter what they look like or their religion or whatever. I know of no 'superior' men and don't consider myself better than anyone else.

Believe me, man, I have no truck with re-ordering the planet based on the size of what someone has in their pants.

[pb]

So export, why mention it?

Now what about the virginity business? Was that meant to be a negative point? What is wrong with being under 35 and still a virgin? Does that stat include ages 0 - 35?

[Export]

Be honest here, pb, are you really asking why or are you just goading me?

Thing is, right, I found some of the facts that ForceFedHate posted were potentially incorrect and some appeared to be more of an opinion (ie * FACT: In the late 1920s the Communist Party USA decided on a policy of destroying American society by pushing 'racial equality'.) or contained a big 'if' in them. (As a sidenote, some of his facts did check out.) I wanted to illustrate that facts can be manipulated to support different views.

As for the virginity business, well, that's up to the individual person, isn't it? As for the stats, please check the reference I provided - it's what it's there for!

You seem kinda hung up on this, you wouldn't happen to be a priest would you?

[ForceFedHate]

Thing is, right, I found some of the facts that ForceFedHate posted were potentially incorrect



NAME ONE EXPORT. WHAT IS WRONG?

[pb]

Yes, all men are created equal and all have the POTENTIAL to be superior and all deserve equal treatment, BUT then they make choices.

The choices we make can hurt more then just ourselves, because we are not alone in the world. Basically you need to follow the golden rule.

This is just a hypothetical example of what I believe to be superior vs inferior actions. At a certain point of time a man can be inferior when he commits armed robbery, then become superior when he goes and lovingly bathes his elderly grandmother.

No one forced him to do either. Why does a person choose the armed robbery?

No I am not a priest. I pay attention to what is going on in the community and don`t give too much heed to numbers. Like you said they can always be misinterpreted.

[Export]

'* FACT: If present demographic trends continue, whites will be a minority in America in only 50 years.'

ForceFedHate, I'm not saying that it
is wrong, I'm saying that it's potentially wrong. Demographics can change a lot in 50 years. After WWII, it was mainly white Europeans who immigrated to our respective countries. But, I will grudgingly admit that you may be correct on this one.

[pb]

Yes I have seen the black population exploding around these parts.

There seems to be more biracial marriages. The black community is always worried about the biracial child losing their black roots, are we worried about this same biracial child losing their white roots? It seems like we consider them black first because of their deeper skin tone.

In the past black women seemed have kept their unplanned unborn children. Have the whites aborted their unplanned unborn more? Is it because of cost? The trend does seem to be correcting itself and I see more white unplanned unborn children being kept alive.

Upperclass (speaking money here and not character) people seem to be more ready to limit their families.

In the past with the black culture a great deal of being a man was attached to being able to father a child, not necessarily taking care of the child. As this is corrected and more black fathers are staying with the family and supporting their offspring the black population expolsion may level off.